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2007-06-03          142687

I'm just about ready to order my BX2350, with 54" deck, and a loader. Before I let go of the check, I would like an input on the "small" displacement of the engine, compared to other engines (diesel) in the same HP class. Should I be concerned?

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2007-06-03          142688

I don't have an opinion on the engine displacement, but I don't think you will be disappointed in the overall power of the tractor. I have a BX2230 and it does everything I ask it to do. I think you will find out it will lose traction before it loses power....and even at that not very often.

I have a boxblade with 4 ripper teeth I can lower to rip the soil. I have very heavy clay in this area and when the clay is dry, there is no worse or harder dirt in the world. I can drop the box with teeth down and it will rip dirt 2 to 3 inches deep without a sweat. I also bought a single tooth ripper that rips about 15-18 inches deep, my 'Bota pulls it through that hard clay at 2/3 throttle with the tooth buried to the hilt. It doesn't even lose traction. It's amazing.

It is a wonderfully designed machine that will give you years of service and enjoyment.

Welcome to Tractor Point...you will find it very useful with your new purchase of your tractor.

Brian ....

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2007-06-03          142690

Brian... I used to work my tractor that way too (partial throttle) but since I have been listening to ART I got concerned about starving/overheating the HST.

Art sez give that transmission all the oil flow you can and it makes sense when you think about it, especially when doing hard work with ground engaging equipment.

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2007-06-03          142691

Thanks Mark for the suggestion. I have always used gas engines in tractors as a kid and Dad always said don't over rev the engine....

I need to remember to do this, especially when working it hard as you suggest...thanks.

As to the original question on this thread, I realized later that "Tonyia" may not necessarily be concerned about the actual horsepower that I addressed, but about the displacement implying I'm sure as to durability. Does anyone out there have thoughts on this? Does Kubota have smaller engine displacement than other brands with similar horsepower? If so, do they run "hotter" and is that an issue?

Brian ....

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2007-06-04          142716


I hope this doen't confuse you but diesels need to be hot to run right! They don't burn all the fuel if they run cool and that causes problems. We have a 650 deere in our shop now with only 800 hours on it and it has glazed cylinders in it causing oil consumption. This is from running the engine too cool to burn all the fuel. It might be from short runs do to the low hours or the thermostat is not functioning properly to bring the temperature up so it can run properly.

With the metals that are used in quality built engines it is very easy to add huge torque and RPM's compared to older designed engines. We've seen it for thirty years with some of the better built diesels able to turn up high and not destruct themselves. ....

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2007-06-04          142729

Thanks Art for the additional info. I need to run my 'Bota "hotter." I certainly don't lug it, but I probably don't run it hot enough all the time to counter act the issues you raise. I appreciate the info.

Does your comment about the quality metals that allows greater torque and RPM's account for the smaller engine displacement issue originally raised in this post?

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2007-06-05          142744

Thanks for all your info and support. Feel a lot better now. Just placed an order for a BX2350, and assorted toys. Will take delivery June 15th.
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2007-06-07          142779


Brian, it certainly does relate to the metal. In ag tractor engines there are some that the crank needs to be turned everytime they are rebuilt even though they are a low rpm engine with 2200 being tops. Then there are some that turn 3000 and can be rebuilt without removing the crank two and sometimes three times with out the crank egging out unless you spin a bearing do to oil starvation. ....

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2007-06-08          142806

A friend of mine was clearing woods with his BX, front loader and backhoe. Somehow, brush punched a hole in the oil filter, so he unknowingly ran it without oil for some time. Put a new filter on, filled her with oil and away he went. One tough machine.

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